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[ecks]

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[nursetemple]

Well, my world only has humans, but we're referring as different skin colors as races. It's backwards and nonsensical if you ask me, especially when you have mixed races - like me. But in my world, white people and black people are different races. Even though we're the same.

[It feels so impossible to explain, but Claire can only try her best.]

What kind of race is not very good? Are we talking orcs and trolls, this kind of species?

[Ecks might be living in a fantasy world.]

cw fantasy racism

[ecks]

Orcs are good. Trolls are stupid but good. The bad ones are the ones that are weak and deserve what they have got, like the white elves and the humans. The good ones are the ones that are strong, or smart enough that they do not have to be strong.

I do not think that the humans here are all weak and stupid.

cw fantasy racism

[nursetemple]

Oh.

[Does that mean Ecks is on the other side of the divide in the good/bad dichotomy in fantasy stories? It most definitely seems like it.

At least she's not hating all of them just because they're human, which is good.]

Are there any human back home that you think are not stupid, either?

cw fantasy racism

[ecks]

I did not know any humans before. There are not very many of them left.

[That is true, so she can say it. She would struggle to claim that she had never met any humans...but she does not want to talk about meeting people she killed.]

cw fantasy racism

[nursetemple]

Yet you still thought they were stupid? Without having ever met one of them?

cw fantasy racism

[ecks]

The books say the reason there are not very many humans is because they were too weak to be part of the gods' new world. That is why humans are mostly gone, and that is why the humans who are still alive are mostly slaves.

cw fantasy racism + religion talk???

[nursetemple]

Being weak makes them stupid? This is conflating two very different things. Weakness is one thing, and can't necessarily be helped. Stupidity is a completely different kettle of fish. I guess it depends on how they died, and what did your God do.

[She can't help but add:]

But He doesn't sound like a very benevolent God if He didn't have love for all His creatures, even the weaker ones.

cw fantasy racism + religion talk yuuup

[ecks]

They were not all Vin's creatures, and Vin is not benevolent. Vin makes chaos and madness and we serve him because he is smart and that makes us strong.

[She pauses for just a second.]

Except I don't like the part with chaos. I think there should be reasons for the things we do.

cw fantasy racism + religion talk

[nursetemple]

That... doesn't seem like a God I'd want to follow. Does following Him not make everyone mad, also?

cw fantasy racism + religion talk

[ecks]

Yes. I think that there is some madness involved.

cw fantasy racism + religion talk

[nursetemple]

Would you rather not follow Him? Is He part of the reason why you decided to make your own choices?

cw fantasy racism + religion talk

[ecks]

I did not like some of the things I was told to do to serve him. I did not like that I did not understand reasons for the things that I was told to do. That is why I decided to leave.

cw fantasy racism + religion talk

[nursetemple]

Good for you, Ecks. You should never follow anyone - God or no - blindly. I believe everything you read, or hear, you should consider carefully, and make your own decision whether you believe it or not.

religion talk

[ecks]

I have never been blind. Is blindness a metaphor? I am careful about which rules I add to my book, and my book is the set of rules that I follow, not other people's rules.

religion talk

[nursetemple]

Yes, blindness is a metaphor. I just mean that some people follow the rules of their God without thinking about them, or what they mean, to them and others. It's dangerous.

religion talk

[ecks]

Yes. Yes, it is dangerous to follow rules and orders without thinking about what they mean to others. It is dangerous to the others.

[Someone else gets it!]

religion talk

[nursetemple]

It's dangerous for you, too. And it's really, really unfair.

religion talk

[ecks]

[...She doesn't get it.]

I was never hurt permanently.

religion talk

[nursetemple]

Don't you think your life, without choices and just obeying orders, hurt you? It's not just about permanent damage, after all, nor is it just about physical damage.

religion talk; abusive upbringing

[ecks]

I don't know.

[She's confused by the question.]

It was my life. It is how I became alive. I would not be alive if the person who made me did not make me to do the things he wanted me to do.

religion talk; abusive upbringing

[nursetemple]

[Jesus. There is a lot here, that Claire doesn't feel qualified to unpack herself. It's way too much.]

I do believe you'd be alive, even without your creator making you obey whatever order he gave you. You seem like a strong, resilient person. But I don't want you to think you did anything wrong by following orders.

religion talk; abusive upbringing

[ecks]

I would not be alive if he did not make me.

[Just pointing out.]

And I think I did things that were wrong. I am very sure that I did things that were wrong.

religion talk; abusive upbringing

[nursetemple]

Not the same thing.

[Stop being obtuse, Ecks.]

But not because you wanted to.

religion talk; abusive upbringing

[ecks]

Not because I wanted to do the bad things.

[She does agree with that.]

Because I liked following orders and knowing what to do, and I did not always know that the things I did were wrong. I know now. But I still like following orders and knowing what to do.